> just wondering if you have had a chance to test the 64bit INS

Not at all. I still haven't compiled it plus...I don't own P3DV4 yet
In these days I seldom use FSX/P3D so the only reason to pay for P3DV4 would be to test CIVA64 and consequently I'm not going to spend money until I'm 110% sure I can test it...

Hello Ray,

Good question!
You basically listed the two possible options: Buy P3DV4 and do tests by my own or rely on somebody else.

When applied changes are small and or relative to a specific area then using a third party "tester" is possible. But CIVA64 is unfortunately a much more massive update, and the fact that it compiles fine does NOT mean it will work. So I fear I'll have to get P3DV4, at least for the initial testing of the 64bit port.

Ray,

Ray wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017, 5:07pm:


honestly speaking, your offer leaves me a bit hesitant because, at least at this point, I don't know if I'll ever be able to deliver/release something.
And if, for any reason, I'll NOT be able to make CIVA64 available, I'd feel like having stolen some money. Consequently I believe it is too early to even talk about "donations". Nevertheless thank you so much for your kind offer!

On top of this, the second reason is that, seeing that your interest in CIVA64 is mostly related to FSLABS Concorde X, I must clearly state that I'll NOT/never release CIVA64 version 1.51 (Concorde X supports) because, since many months ago, I am working on version 1.60, providing some fixes and some enhancements.

Version 1.60 will be the one I'll release, if ever, in 64bit flavor (in addition to the usual 32bit versions). When 1.60 will be published version 1.51 automatically becomes "obsolete", not because of the few enhancements 1.60 contains, but because of fixes.

I'm sure you'd say this is nice but, from your point of view, you should not because 1.60 is NOT compatible with Concorde X "as is".

Concorde X, as it is, ported to 64bit, would NOT work with CIVA64 1.60

This means FSLABS guys would have not only to port Concorde X to P3DV4 but also to invest some time modifying the interface between CIVA and their panel/modeled subsystems. Don't ask me how much additional effort would be required. They wouldn't know either, because technical details of what has changed are not yet available.

> this does not guarantee FSL will go ahead with 64-bit Concorde but with
> a working INS it makes it plausible

So this is unfortunately not the case, but, maybe...the opposite. The "pushing factor" I see is that once, if ever, CIVA 1.60 will be made available, the compatibility/upgrade issue will also impact, and involve, the 32bit community. And, if the upgrade will be considered, and they get their hands on the code, it will maybe be possible they'll decide to also bring it to 64bit (usually what happens is that once you get familiar with a complex source code, which takes, time, then applying two changes/enhancements instead of just one is very cost effective, compared to a scenario where the two changes are applied separately, requiring two familiarization sessions)

Note I am always available to provide "alpha release" preliminary documents, and potentially even 32bit version of the 1.60 gauges, to anybody willing to integrate CIVA within a panel, for development and testing purposes.

Anyway we're discussing about nothing as CIVA 1.60 32/64 does not currently exist...

Once again thank you!

Hi, I don't fly the Condord but would really love to see it for v4 as would like to use with all my older planes, just flights upgraded v4-dc8, L-1011 Tristar, and when updated captain sims B707, B727, ETC. Models that flew b4 fmc tech, and also would be willing to make a donation for a 64-bit version as v4 is really cool, as gets u out of the 4 gig OOM limitation. Please keep us informed of ur progress (as have done so well), also if it were a way to, chip in with others willing to donate, to if possibly gift you v4 so would be able to test your upgrade, would be willing to participate.

Quick update: I was finally able to correct all errors and successfully compile the gauge, there are still tons of warning messages from the compiler but as far as I checked them they should not cause any major (negative) effect on gauges functionalities. The area where I'm expecting problems is the code itself, being able to compile it doesn't mean it will actually work  

A question for Prepar3d experts: Would I be entitled to buy an Academic version?
I tried looking here (Multimedia file viewing and clickable links are available for registered members only!!  You need to Login or Register!!
) but I'm not able to open the relevant link...

I was able to get a P3DV4 License and test Civa and Civac gauges. After some fighting I'm happy to announce that 64 bit version of both gauges work very well.

Not only gauges but also the SDK and the Civa XML Bridge were successfully compiled in 64 bit mode and were tested to be working.

Marco

Wow amazing news.  Thanks for your efforts on this Marco.

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Thanks Marco. A decision about a 64-big Concorde has still to be made by FSL but I know you have had discussions with them. All we can do is be patient.

Hi Marco,

I’m very grateful for your efforts. I and many Concorde users will keep our fingers crossed that your CIVA INS can be used in that aircraft.

You're all very welcome!
I'm planning to release a beta of the CIVA64 soon.
I'll open a separate thread here in the forum when ready.