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Message started by Eric J. Olson on Jan 1^st, 2009, 3:40pm

Title: Error 08-20
Post by Eric J. Olson on Jan 1^st, 2009, 3:40pm

Hello,

I am trying to figure out what is going wrong with my INS install. It worked good before I had an FS corruption forcing me to reinstall FS and then copy everything over.

I tried the INS again today and it is no longer working, so I deleted the entire CIVA folder, downloaded 1.51, and reinstalled.

When I went to use it, I again got the 08-20 error. Any ideas as to what could be causing this? And no, I have not done anything other than install the gauge.

Title: Re: Error 08-20
Post by Gianfranco on Jan 1^st, 2009, 4:15pm

see action&malfunctions codes on CIVA folder/DOC.
You have to reinstall the whole package.
First delete the Civa folder in your FS9 main root and then reinstall a fresh Civa Ins.

Title: Re: Error 08-20
Post by Eric J. Olson on Jan 1^st, 2009, 4:35pm

Already did that.

Strange thing is, I don't get the error using the supplied default 737 config, but copying the triple config from the default 747 package and putting it on my DC-10 is producing the error.

Like I said, before, never had the error, just all of a sudden showed up.

And, I have deleted and reinstalled with reboots at least 3 times now with no luck. :(

Here's the panel.cfg, which I'm not catching any errors:

Code:

// This Panel.cfg file created by FS Panel Studio panel editor utility - http://www.fspanelstudio.com
// Built Saturday, July 22, 2006 at 18:19 FSPS Build:18222

[Window Titles]
Window00=DC10 Main
Window01=Fuel
Window02=GPS PIC
Window03=Radio
Window04=INS Control Display Units
Window05=INS Mode Select Units
Window06=Gauges

[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=MAIN_PANEL,COLLECTIVE_PANEL,GPS_PANEL,RADIO_STACK_PANEL,41,40,THROTTLE_PANEL

VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=1.000
VIEW_FORWARD_EYE=0.000, 0.000, 0.000
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=1.400, 0.000, 0.000

VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_WINDOWS=31
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.900
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_EYE=0.000, 0.000, 0.000
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_DIR=1.000, 0.000, 40.000

VIEW_RIGHT_WINDOWS=32
VIEW_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.900
VIEW_RIGHT_EYE=0.000, 0.000, 0.000
VIEW_RIGHT_DIR=1.000, 0.000, 90.000

VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_WINDOWS=33
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.900
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_EYE=3.300, 0.000, -20.000
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_DIR=12.000, 0.000, 110.000

VIEW_REAR_WINDOWS=34
VIEW_REAR_ZOOM=0.900
VIEW_REAR_EYE=1.400, 0.000, 0.000
VIEW_REAR_DIR=11.850, 0.000, 0.000

VIEW_REAR_LEFT_WINDOWS=35
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_ZOOM=0.900
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_EYE=2.000, 0.000, -35.000
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_DIR=10.000, 0.000, 275.000

VIEW_LEFT_WINDOWS=36
VIEW_LEFT_ZOOM=0.900
VIEW_LEFT_EYE=0.000, 0.000, 0.000
VIEW_LEFT_DIR=1.000, 0.000, 270.000

VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_WINDOWS=37
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_ZOOM=0.900
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_EYE=0.000, 0.000, 0.000
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_DIR=1.000, 0.000, 320.000

VIEW_UP_WINDOWS=30
VIEW_UP_DIR=340.000, 0.000, 0.000

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
file=DC10PIC.bmp
size_mm=1024
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=8
visible=1
ident=MAIN_PANEL
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=DC10.PANDIM_PIC, 0,0,1024,768
gauge01=CNCRD!Attitude-indicator, 164,420,150,152
gauge02=CNCRD!Horizontal-situation-indicator, 164,572,150,152
gauge03=DC10sa.Trim2k, 894,629,20,11
gauge04=DC10sa.AC, 664,20,16,26
gauge05=DC10sa.Temp, 902,442,65,25
gauge06=Dc10sa.HGHB_toga, 896,464,20,19
gauge07=DC10sa.At.annun, 79,388,46,71
gauge08=Dc10sa.Gear, 951,500,40,141
gauge09=Dc10sa.Sign_2k, 742,5,75,50
gauge10=Dc10sa.HGHB_Gearan, 958,447,68,44
gauge11=1011.clock, -42,467,86,84
gauge12=Dc10sa.Thrust, 722,704,125,90
gauge13=Dc10sa.Airbrake, 663,703,40,163
gauge14=Dc10sa.Flapslever, 860, 703 ,25,122
gauge15=CNCRD!DME, 61,556,88,45
gauge16=737-400!Deice Switch, 689,20,16,26
gauge17=737-400!Pitot Heat, 710,20,16,26
gauge18=737-400!Landing Lights, 831,20,16,26
gauge19=737-400!Strobe Lights, 868,20,16,26
gauge20=737-400!Beacon Lights, 848,20,16,26
gauge21=737-400!Navigation Lights, 886,20,16,26
gauge22=737-400!Pitch Trim, 877,286,25,56
gauge23=CNCRD!Radio-Naviagtion-1, 557,287,68,63
gauge24=CNCRD!AP-Vor-Window, 630,300,32,17
gauge25=CNCRD!Backcourse-Hold-Button, 517,351,30,20
gauge26=CNCRD!Flight-Director-Switch, 519,298,25,40
gauge27=CNCRD!Autothrottle-Switch, 705,284,22,34
gauge28=CNCRD!Mach-Hold-Button, 676,356,30,20
gauge29=CNCRD!Airspeed-Hold-Button, 722,356,30,20
gauge30=CNCRD!AP-Airspeed-Window, 721,323,32,16
gauge31=CNCRD!AP-Mach-Window, 676,323,32,16
gauge32=CNCRD!Nav-Hold-Button, 764,352,30,20
gauge33=CNCRD!Approach-Hold-Button, 796,352,30,20
gauge34=CNCRD!Hdg-Hold-Button, 827,352,30,20
gauge35=CNCRD!AP-Hdg-Window, 793,291,32,16
gauge36=CNCRD!AP-Vertical-Speed-Window, 910,323,52,16
gauge37=CNCRD!AP-Altitude-Window, 910,292,52,17
gauge38=CNCRD!Yaw-Dump-Button, 890,352,30,20
gauge39=CNCRD!Wing-Leveler-Button, 922,352,30,20
gauge40=CNCRD!Attitude-Hold-Button, 1016,301,30,20
gauge41=CNCRD!Altitude-Hold-Button, 954,352,30,20
gauge42=CNCRD!Autopilot-Switch, 973,297,25,40
gauge43=Dc10sa.stbatt_2k, 547,444,75,70
gauge44=DC10sa.Surf, 883,632,48,54
gauge45=CNCRD!Engine-Manage-Lights, 646,410,70,13,1
gauge46=CNCRD!Engine-Manage-Lights, 715,410,70,13,2
gauge47=CNCRD!Engine-Manage-Lights, 784,410,70,13,3
gauge48=737-400!GPS Display Toggle, 587,355,15,14
gauge49=CNCRD!Fuel-Panel-Display-Toggle, 602,355,15,14
gauge50=737-400!Avionics Display Toggle, 572,355,15,14
gauge51=cessna208!ATC-Display-Toggle, 557,355,15,14
gauge52=tab-spoiler, 437,434,42,14
gauge53=FPDA_Gear_Wind, 1,1,10,9
gauge54=CNCRD!Taxi-Lights-Switch, 813,20,16,26
gauge55=CNCRD!VOR, 58,607,93,96
gauge56=CNCRD!ADF, 406,543,95,94
gauge57=737-400!Flaps Ext, 933,534,18,17
gauge58=737-400!Flaps Transit, 933,554,18,17
gauge59=CNCRD!Radio-Altimeter, 415,458,79,78
gauge60=dc10sa.dimsw_PIC, 480,312,10,9
gauge61=fpda_boeing_callout, 1,1,10,9
gauge62=Dc10sa.Airsp2k, 49,443,110,109
gauge63=Dc10sa.Alt2k, 315,452,95,96
gauge64=Dc10sa.VSI, 325,556,74,73
gauge65=Dc10sa.S.airspeed, 544,620,80,79
gauge66=magnetic_compass!Magnetic-Compass, 751,54,65,64
gauge67=Dc10sa.S.alt2k, 541,527,88,89
gauge68=Dc10sa.OMI, 510,474,19,51
gauge69=Dc10sa.Flaps, 887,525,27,79
gauge70=Rel_Wind_v3.0!RelWind, 323,642,69,69

gauge71=../civa/INS!Config, 0, 0, 0, 0, dc1030
gauge72=../civa/INS!NavModeTriple, 555, 402, 56
gauge73=../civa/INS!UpdateFlags, 422, 389, 70, 38
gauge74=../civa/INS!MsuPanelIcon, 497, 392, 14, 14, 40
gauge75=../civa/INS!CduPanelIcon, 497, 409, 14, 14, 41

gauge76=Z_L1011KM!N1_RIBBON_GAUGE, 662,453,41,143
gauge77=Z_L1011KM!TGT_RIBBON_GAUGE, 703,453,38,143
gauge78=Z_L1011KM!N3_RIBBON_GAUGE, 742,453,45,143
gauge79=Z_L1011KM!FF_RIBBON_GAUGE, 787,453,40,143
gauge80=Z_L1011KM!ASI_BUG_SELECT, 55,448,15,15
gauge81=SimIcons!ECU Icon, 618,355,15,14

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
file=dc10_fuel.bmp
size_mm=1024
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=8
visible=0
ident=COLLECTIVE_PANEL
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=CNCRD!Fuel-Quantity, 696,430,64,63,Front
gauge01=CNCRD!Fuel-Quantity, 644,486,64,63,Left
gauge02=CNCRD!Fuel-Quantity, 750,487,64,63,Right
gauge03=CNCRD!Fuel-Quantity, 698,541,64,63,Back
gauge04=CNCRD!Front-Low-Fuel, 667,429,28,19
gauge05=CNCRD!Left-Low-Fuel, 661,553,28,19
gauge06=CNCRD!Right-Low-Fuel, 770,553,28,19
gauge07=CNCRD!Back-Low-Fuel, 667,588,28,19
gauge08=CNCRD!Fuel-Crossfeed, 710,496,37,41
gauge09=CNCRD!Fuel-Pump, 803,550,51,49
gauge10=CNCRD!Battery-Switch, 650,653,28,30
gauge11=CNCRD!Engine1-Ignition-Switch, 749,632,22,30
gauge12=CNCRD!Engine2-Ignition-Switch, 780,632,22,30
gauge13=CNCRD!Engine3-Ignition-Switch, 809,632,22,30
gauge14=CNCRD!Generator1-Switch, 749, 672 ,22,30
gauge15=CNCRD!Generator2-Switch, 780,671,22,30
gauge16=CNCRD!Generator3-Switch, 808,671,22,30
gauge17=DC10jv.tanksw, 769,421,66
gauge18=../Civa/INS!BatParallel, 817,496,34

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
file=gps_A.bmp
size_mm=1024
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=8
visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500, 539,381,488,326

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window03]
file=radio_a.bmp
size_mm=1024
position=0
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL

gauge00=737-400!Comm 1, 650,432,204,50
gauge01=737-400!Nav 1, 650,481,204,50
gauge02=737-400!Nav 2, 650,530,204,50
gauge03=737-400!Transponder, 650,579,204,50
gauge04=737-400!ADF, 650,628,204,50
gauge05=737-400!Audio, 650,677,204,23

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window04]
Background_color=16,16,16
size_mm=600,158
position=8
visible=0
ident=41

gauge00=../civa/ins!Cdu1, 0, 0, 200, 158
gauge01=../civa/ins!Cdu2, 200, 0, 200, 158
gauge02=../civa/ins!Cdu3, 400, 0, 200, 158

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window05]
Background_color=16,16,16
size_mm=600,57
position=1
visible=0
ident=40

gauge00=../civa/INS!Msu1, 0, 0, 200, 57
gauge01=../civa/INS!Msu2, 200, 0, 200, 57
gauge02=../civa/INS!Msu3, 400, 0, 200, 57

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window06]
file=gauges.bmp
size_mm=1024
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=8
visible=0
ident=THROTTLE_PANEL
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=Z_L1011KM!FF_RIBBON_GAUGE, 820,416,75,248
gauge01=Z_L1011KM!N1_RIBBON_GAUGE, 597,416,71,248
gauge02=Z_L1011KM!N3_RIBBON_GAUGE, 740,417,79,247
gauge03=Z_L1011KM!TGT_RIBBON_GAUGE, 667,417,74,247

[Color]
Day=220,240,245
Night=65,60,55
Luminous=230,210,200

[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8191
SIZE_Y=2665

Update:

Tried default 747, works fine. Tried default 737, works fine. For some reason, the above panel, which is on the SGA DC-10-30, is NOT working and is producing the mentioned error.

Title: Re: Error 08-20
Post by Gianfranco on Jan 2^nd, 2009, 8:58am

hi,
are in the FS9/Civa folder present the files:
Civa_ID.DAT
DC1030.Isd
Gianfranco

Title: Re: Error 08-20
Post by Eric J. Olson on Jan 2^nd, 2009, 9:50am

Yes, both are present.

Also, the DC1030.Isd is being written without issue. I deleted it and restarted it and it reappeared.

Title: Re: Error 08-20
Post by Eric J. Olson on Jan 2^nd, 2009, 2:57pm

Problem solved.

I'm not sure how it happened, but I had a CIVA folder with the INS gauge in the DC-10 directory. When I started process monitor to see what was going on, for some reason FS was hitting on that and accessing it as the gauge as opposed to the one installed per the installer.

Obviously, it was an older version as well and was not a complete install including the ID files.

So, deleted that directory and all is well now.

Again, chalk that one up to the folks at M$ for their program searching techniques which make little sense. ;D

Gianfranco, thanks for your patience and help.

Title: Re: Error 08-20
Post by Gianfranco on Jan 2^nd, 2009, 7:25pm

Hi Eric,
I'm happy for your issue solution.
May I suggest to pay attention always, when you have a problem, at Civa/Doc there you'll be able to find all solutions.
Ciao Gianfranco

Title: Re: Error 08-20
Post by Eric J. Olson on Jan 2^nd, 2009, 7:30pm

Yeah, but it doesn't say anything about having a "rogue" gauge in an irrelevant folder. ;D