Hello,

I installed a triple unit CIVA INS setup in the RFP 747 for FS9 but quickly ran into a problem.

Recently I made a flight from VHHH to RJBB.
I succesfully setup the aircraft, letting the INS units heat up a bit before starting the alignment process. All three units were maximum aligned to the position of the aircraft.

For departure I used a VOR/DME based SID to the first waypoint which was called RASSE.
So I flew the SID and then activated the INS to fly to RASSE waypoint,
but when I did it the aircraft broke away from the track that I was flying to intercept the first waypoint.
It made a right turn as if it was returning to the airport first, flew that for 10 minutes or so, before making a left turn again and intercepting the waypoint at completely the wrong track.


Again, all units were fully aligned and RASSE waypoint was in the INS at the WPT 01 slot with the correct coordinates. I did not mess around with WPT 00, as this is was the POS position.

I actually drew the flight path on the chart to see what happened, and it seems like it was intercepting RASSE waypoint on a track that was calculated if you were to draw a line directly from the airport (VHHH) to RASSE.

I tried both version 1.51 and 1.60x32. And on all flights I made I get exactly the same problem.

Is this a classic case of pilot error, or a bug in the CIVA INS?

In case anyone is wondering, it seems to work fine with the RFP panel and HJG’s 727 panels in FS9. No issues

Not sure what the ‘important updates’ are as it seems to perform identical but either way, it works well.

I also am having problems installing it. The manual is written for programmers and developers, not the masses that do not understand. The FSX version came with sample panels which was great because then you could just copy and paste into the CFG like installing a repaint. All I get are grey or black boxes when I try to install the INS into Concorde. All I can figure is that there is a number value or some entry that needs to be specific to get it to show up but the manual does not specify. The manual is no help.

Another view of the VC with the INS

Excellent tool, now is possible to fly these good models to fly, I managed to enter the gauges in the VC of the 722 and 721 of CS, interested write me inbox

Check out PanelIntegrationManual.pdf in the Docs subfolder of CIVA installation

Marco

How can I install in the DC Designs Concorde the CIVA?
In the manual it is a remark that it shoulod be possible.
Can someone help me or send me a panel.cfg?
I have the FSX version.

Thanks in advance!

Olaf

Hi Marco,

It was Andrew Wilson who suggested uninstalling and then reinstalling GSX / SODE as he had a similar problem with the Airbus.

The problem occured again this week so I uninstalled GSX (both 32 and 64 bit) and then installed just 32-bit GSX. SODE was enabled only for 32-bit. So far I've had four Concorde flights and no problems.

My nest step is to install GSX 64-bit but leave SODE disabled for a couple of Concorde flights. If those are okay then I'll enable SODE 64-bit. If the CTD starts again then it points to SODE 64-bit being the problem. The quick solution might be to disable 64-bit SODE when flying 32-bit Concorde.

No worries about your late reply. Lots going on in the world. Hope you stay  safe.  

Hello Ray,

> The problem was eventually traced to a combination of FSDT GSX and / or SODE

wow, that was not easy!

> There must be a memory conflict since the CTD didn't happen when the INS was turned off

honestly I have no idea of what could cause this. CIVA code is quite stable and both should not interfere with nor be influenced by others add ons.

I'm happy you were able to solve your problem and sorry for being so late replying to your post

Marco

Hello Marco,

The problem was eventually traced to a combination of FSDT GSX and / or SODE. There must be a memory conflict since the CTD didn't happen when the INS was turned off and Concorde flown using TRK HDG mode. It happened at the same locations presumably when GSX or SODE comes to life nearing the end of a flight. CIVA INS is certainly not the probem.

I'm fully up to date with CIVA since I have to use the version that ships with FS Labs Concorde.